It's Official: The Justice League Movies Won't Cross Over With Arrow

Morning SpoilersIf there’s news about upcoming movies and television you’re not supposed to know, you’ll find it in here.

But at least Arrow and The Flash will cross over, a lot. Michael B. Jordan explains how the Fantastic Four are superheroes with "disabilities." Supernatural's 200th episode will be "musical-ish." Plus, new looks at Agents of SHIELD, Doctor Who, and more! Spoilers now!

Top image: The Flash

Fantastic Four

Michael B. Jordan talked about Josh Trank's vision and how it'll address the characters' new powers:

Josh's vision is very clear and he knows exactly what he wants, and he gives us room to adapt and to play. That's what I kind of think sets us apart, is that this is going to be grounded and unconventional.

It's not your typical superhero film, you know, we aren't looking at this as like, being superheroes. We're more or less a bunch of kids that had an accident and we have disabilities now that we have to cope with, and try to find a life afterwards – try to be as normal as we can.


He went on to elaborate on trying to ground the story and make it suitably "super":

We're trying to make it relatable to people as much as we can [with these] larger than life, larger than this world themes.

It's superheroes! You know, not just superheroes. It's fiction. You've got to ground it as much as you can to make [audience members] feel relatable to these characters, no matter what age they are or what time of their life.

One of the good things about the Fantastic Four is that everybody is different. And it's like, sometimes family doesn't always consist of your relatives or by blood. Sometimes your best friends can feel more like family than your cousins.

I think everybody kind of has that same feeling. When you go through an accident together, when you go through a traumatic event, sometimes that brings you closer together. Yeah, everybody takes their time out to kind of deal with their own stuff, but at the end of the day, you shared a common experience together that you're able to relate to.

The people, the public, the fans that are watching this can all relate to that because everybody has had to overcome an obstacle in their life before.


More at the link. [ MTV]

The Ring 3

The third installment in Paramount's The Ring franchise has a director: F. Javier Gutierrez. Gutierrez is also attached to The Crow remake and also wrote and directed the Spanish-language Before The Fall (Tres Dias). [The Hollywood Reporter]


Guardians of the Galaxy

There's a new clip, which shows the full conversation between Korath and Peter Quill that we've seen parts of in the trailers (including the lead-up to the "Star-Lord" bit). [via Comic Book Resources]

Rounding out the character posters, here's one for Benicio del Toro as the Collector. [First Showing]


Dracula Untold

Go here for more photos from Dracula Untold. [Coming Soon]



CW President Mark Pedowitz said that we'll be seeing Arrow and Flash inhabit the same world quite a bit:

You will see — organically — characters shifting over, villains shifting over back and forth between 'Flash' and 'Arrow.' We will be introducing more villains that are part of the DC Comics universe.


[ Variety]

In Arrow, EP Andrew Kreisberg says the third season will jump forward in time as much as season 2 did from season 1, with Captain Lance disbanding the anti-vigilante task force and crime in Starling City being down. He also described Ra's al Ghul's position in the show, dancing around confirming him as season 3's main villain:

It's big. I can say that he's big and he's bad. We're still figuring that stuff out. As far as the Big Bad, there will be a Big Bad. Even last year, everybody was a subset of Slade's (Manu Bennett). Slade was the Big Bad. We will meet other villains along the way, as always. We'll have recurring villains and new villains we're starting with this year and people who are coming back from the previous two seasons.


He said that Ray Palmer (Brandon Routh), who will act as a foil for Felicity and Oliver because he's "as tall, square-jawed and handsome" as Oliver and "he's a really funny comedian. He and Felicity can have that verbal repartee that we haven't typically had on the show."

Kreisberg says the characters are all starting season three in a good place, and then they'll "take it all away." For Roy specifically, that means that he thinks that he's put the past behind him:

Like with all of our characters, the past has a terrible way of catching up with them. It's a new and interesting thing for Oliver to really have a mentee, somebody he is training beside. There's really lovely stuff in the premiere like, "You did a good job tonight." When we met Roy, he was living practically on the streets and stealing. To see him have this big brother, I don't think he's really had anybody believe in him. Obviously Thea (Willa Holland) did, but like a male character. You're happy for Roy in the beginning that he's really found his place. Of course, then we're going to shake his world up.


Episode 2 will have a flashback starring Tommy Merlyn, where we will see " how Tommy and Oliver just missed each other in Hong Kong." Also returning is Sara Lance, who is currently scheduled to appear in three episodes. Finally, there's a lot of tension for Diggle, now that Lyla's pregnant. Being a father puts him in conflict with Oliver, and Lyla still being with ARGUS creates tensions among Lyla, Diggle, and Amanda Waller. [TV Guide]

Colton Haynes gave more detail on how Roy's dealing with Thea leaving town, and what's in store for her:

He's trying not to think about it. Every time he hears her name he says 'I gotta go do a patrol' or 'I gotta get out there. I gotta clear my mind.' He's running away from it because Thea said she never wants to see him again or talk to him again, he's been lying to her forever so he has to do what she wants so he's giving her her space.

We're going to see a frickin' bad ass Thea coming. We're also going to see a bad ass Laurel. Her guns are…if you see the pictures she's posting on Instagram. She's kicking ass. She's just shredding it.


He also said he's "hearing talk" about a new love interest for Roy, and hinted at a secret Roy's keeping:

The relationship is a lot more mentor. Roy is keeping a little bit of information this year and I can't say about what but I can say it's going to get him in a little bit of trouble. But he does still looks up to Oliver. Oliver is very gracious and attentive to helping Roy out and helping him through his journey.


[ TV Fanatic]

Here's a photo from Emily Bett Rickard's Instagram showing her with Routh:



Geoff Johns says that the show is going to be very faithful to the original character:

It's probably the most faithful DC Comics adaptation ever. We've incorporated almost everything of the mythology into it and added a new backstory with S.T.A.R. Labs.


Also popping up in the new show will be Leonard Snart/Captain Gold (Wentworth Miller). Said EP Greg Berlanti, "We'll be seeing his origin [story] and the origin of the Rogues." Berlanti also said that, between Arrow and The Flash, they will have "half the Justice League" on our TV screens. The pilot will tease Gorilla Grodd with broken cage with a dangling nameplate, and the producers hope to follow up on that later in the season.

As for more intense crossovers between the two shows, Kreisberg said:

Episodes 8 of both shows, Arrow and Flash, are going to be a two-hour crossover event. [Also], in Episode 4, Felicity [Emily Bett Rickards] is going to come to The Flash.


[ TV Guide]

Johns also confirmed that the TV shows are not related to DC's movie universe, making clear once and for all that they are two "separate worlds." [Green Arrow TV]


Here's a featurette about Detective Joe West. [via Coming Soon]

And go here for more photos from the pilot. [SpoilerTV]



CW's Mark Pedowitz says that, although Bloodlines didn't get picked up, they're still looking to do a Supernatural spinoff:

Creatively [Bloodlines] did not quite get where we wanted it to go. We have told (the creators) that we are very open to doing another spinoff. I would love to get a 'Supernatural' spinoff done. It's a great franchise with a lot of legs.


[ Variety]

Executive producer Jeremy Carver and stars Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles all say that they can see the show continuing on past the tenth season. Carver said there's "no quit in anybody" and Padalecki added that "if there's an end coming, we'll all see it and won't have to push it. When it's time to hang up the Sam Winchester hat, I'll welcome that chapter."


Carver added that Demon Dean will be around for more than one episode but as a "different type of Demon Dean then you might expect." There's going to be a "mysterious" character hunting for Dean and Castiel will be in danger of dying due to his diminished grace.

If the show were to end, it sounds like they already know how they want it to go. Said Carver

I know that [creator] Eric Kripke always had an ending in mind.

I have an image…but I always want to keep room for happy accidents as well. The show is continuing on beyond any of our wildest dreams, so I don't think I want to limit ourselves. … All the writers, we have images in our heads, but our minds are wide open.


[ TV Line]

The 200th episode, called "Fan Fiction," will be "musical-ish." Carver added:

I think it'll be one of the more amusing and engaging episodes we've done in a while. I think we can safely call this a meta episode. We're going pretty meta. I would just describe it as something of a love letter to our fans and there will be songs.


[E! Online, SpoilerTV]

Vampire Diaries

Wrapping up the CW news is EP Julie Plec on The Vampire Diaries. Bonnie and Damon's whereabouts will be a big part of the start of the season, according to Plec:

I have to ask: Is there a chance Damon and Bonnie will like where they are? Is it almost heaven-like?

Ooh, well… I can tell you this: Where they are is part of the mystery of the beginning of the season. It's not torturous, but it's by no means a roller coaster ride of fun. If nothing else, it's a bit of an existential experience. [Laughs]

How aware of their new surroundings will they be?

They'll be aware that they're no longer where they thought they were — but they're also not dead, per se. They'll be asking a lot of questions, along with the audience, including: What's going on? Where the hell are we? And how do we get home?


She said that Elena is trying to pull herself together, if not fully succeeding. As for Stefan, Plec says:

Stefan has made some very big choices about how he wants to live his life in the wake of his brother's death. That's part of the first round of reveals of where our characters are. Is he off on the top of a mountain talking to a shaman? Is he trying to get answers from a witch about how to fix everything? Is he back to being a ripper? Is he drowning his sorrows at the bottom of a bottle? We'll see.


[ TV Line]


Executive producer David Greenwalt says Trubel will be around for at least the first several episodes of season 4 and that Adalind will "rise from the ashes" of what's happening to her in Europe. As for Nick, Greenwalt says:

If they could cure him and if he could submit to that process, which is going to be horrible — or at least shocking — does he want to be a Grimm again? This will go on longer than the zombie thing [at the end of Season 2], but not just interminably. Long enough to really mine the issues around it.


Rosalee and Monroe will also face a "very frightening terrible threat that has to be dealt with." The last key will be found in season 4, which will make season 5 a season all about the mystery of the keys. And from there, Greenwalt says the show will be "reinvented":

We could certainly go to [Season] 7, or even 8. We have no idea after 5, and then we might really start mixing it up. Like, maybe Nick won't be a cop anymore. He might be something else. Maybe Trubel has her own show in New York or Philadelphia.


[ Zap 2 It]

And here's a poster for season 4. [SpoilerTV]


Doctor Who

The BBC's official twitter account for the show revealed a closer look at the Cybermen:


And there are more photos from the filming of the finale at the link, but in the ones below you can see Peter Capaldi, Michelle Gomez (The Gatekeeper of the Nethersphere), and a Cybermen. [ Blogtor Who]


Agents of SHIELD/Agent Carter

Here's a poster featuring the two shows that will be at Comic Con. [ TV Guide]


And here's a set photo from Ming-Na Wen. [via SpoilerTV]



Here are some more promos. [via SpoilerTV]


Here's a promo and a sneak peek for episode 1.06, "Black Eyes Blue":

The 100

Season 2 will be 16 episodes long. [TV Guide's Twitter]


Go here for more photos from episode 2.07, "If You Could See Her Through My Eyes." [SpoilerTV]


Falling Skies/Last Ship

Both shows have been renewed by TNT, although it will be the final season for Falling Skies. [K Site TV]


Additional reporting by Charlie Jane Anders and Ryan Plummer

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