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How Superhero Movies Can Escape the 'Too Many Villains' Problem

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There's a dreadful ailment that afflict superhero movies: the villain overload. Movies about costumed crime-fighters seem to attract surplus villains, like barnacles. Is it because the merchandising people want more toys to market? Or because they just want to pad out the cast with a few more names? It's hard to say.


But the "too many villains" problem is still afflicting superhero films, as Green Lantern proved. And some people are worried the same blight will affect The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises, two of next summer's most anticipated films. The good news is, a movie can overcome the problem of excess villainy. Here are some ways that superhero movies can escape from the death trap of having one or two villains too many.

Minor spoilers/rumors for upcoming films below...

The truth is, there's no strict formula where the quality decreases as the number of villains goes up. Christopher Nolan managed to prove, in both of his first two Batman films, that you can have more than one villain in a film and still make it work. So even if The Dark Knight Rises has every villain it's rumored to have, including Bane and Catwoman but also Talia, Ra's Al-Ghul, Hugo Strange and Scarecrow, it could still be a great film. Likewise, we still have a lot of trust that Joss Whedon can make whatever arrangement of "Loki plus other villians" The Avengers has into a successful mixture.

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But still, it's hard to dispute that many of the crappiest superhero movies have followed the "supervillain team-up" formula. Having more than one villain in a superhero film takes the focus away from the hero(es), and then either you need two or three climaxes in which the hero fights the different villains, or you need some kind of tag-team deal, like Spider-Man 3 had. Having two supervillains often means that you need to have two supervillain origin stories, which is often dreary.

But also, scenes were supervillains talk to each other are often really dull — you have two or three marquee actors wearing insane dayglo costumes, standing around on a soundstage full of dry ice and declaiming to each other. The idea of a "supervillain team-up" is something that DC and Marvel have done some great stories about, in their comics — but it's hard to make it work in the big screen.

Most of all, when you have a giant cloud of fear energy plus a mutated scientist in the same movie, it's hard not to have the feeling of an overstuffed goose. You get the feeling that some studio exec someplace was piling up action figures on his plush office carpet, and insisting that if one villain was good, five had to be better. Let's pull out all the stops — it works for Michael Bay!


So here are some ideas about how superhero movies can avoid the "supervillain flash mob" nightmare:

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Pick just one villain. Seriously. This is the easiest, best fix for the problem. Iron Man 2 would have been a better film with just one villain. So would Green Lantern and Spider-Man 3. It wouldn't have fixed everything that was wrong with those films, but it would have gone a long way.

It's not the number of villains, it's the number of stories. There's a limit to how many subplots your average movie can contain, especially subplots which are about the villains of the movie. In the end, the antagonists of the movie have to tie into the main storyline, and there has to be one of those. So if there's more than one villain, the villains still have to work together as part of the central story, thematically and from a plot standpoint. The Dark Knight does this brilliantly, by making the Joker's effect on Harvey Dent a central part of the film's arc.


It's the hero's story. Actually, The Dark Knight pushes this principle almost to its limit, because it's as much about the Joker and Harvey Dent as it is about Batman. But it's still very much a movie about Bruce Wayne's journey and how these other two men affect him, and his view of his role as savior of Gotham. In general, in most superhero movies, the antagonists are there to force the hero to make choices, and rise to their challenges — and multiple villains still have to work as part of the hero's main story.

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Supervillains don't talk like supervillains to each other. Okay, seriously. Dialogue between supervillains should probably be kept to a minimum in the first place — but to the extent that the supervillains put on a crazy persona to intimidate their opponents, they probably act somewhat differently among their own kind. (A lot of my favorite comics of the past decade have shown this brilliantly.) Supervillains, when they're alone together, talk more like regular people and less like caricatures.

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Avoid the villain anticlimax If you're determined to have two separate villains, with two separate but intersecting storylines, don't give one of them the weak send-off at the end of the film. If a movie can't find a way to give both, or all, of its villains a decent climax, then that's a surefire sign that one of those villains is a waste of space. (I'm looking at you, Hector Hammond and Justin Hammer.)

Each villain is a different lesson. This is another way to go — it's a bit of a cliche to say your enemies are your best teachers, but it's still definitely true. And if you're going to go having more than one villain in a film, then each villain ought to be teaching a different lesson — or at least, a different version of the main lesson. Maybe there are different weaknesses that each villain plays on — or different wrong-headed ideas on the hero's part that each villain represents.


We'd love to see more villain cameos. On the other hand, there's something great about showing that the superhero exists in a world where there are tons of villains all over the place, and he/she is constantly getting into random fights on the way downtown. This is something that comics do, which the movies have never really tried — it would be kind of cool if a superhero film featured a random fight with a supervillain, in the opening sequence, or during a random lull in the action, and then that supervillain was never seen again in the movie. Just another day at the office.

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Make the relationship between the villains interesting. If one of them is just a henchman, then fair enough, I guess. If they have some kind of dysfunctional relationship, along the lines of Gail Simone's Secret Six comics, then so much the better. Rather than just having two villains who are introduced separately and then decide to team up in time for the third act, or just randomly come together, having a more interesting dynamic between them will go a long way towards making them work as characters.

Each villain should want something. Just like every hero should. And it shouldn't just be "to wear a cool costume and be ebil." Ideally, at least someone in the movie should want something more interesting than "vengeance on the hero for some hand-wavy reason."


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Villain cameos? Umm... Hello... Batman Begins and The Dark Knight?

Batman Begins is bursting with villains and villain cameos.

Ra's Al Ghul, The Scarecrow, Victor Zsaz, Carmine "The Roman" Falcone, Joe Chill, detective Arnold John Flass and Rutger Hauer as William Earle.

While The Dark Knight literally begins with a "just another day at the office" fight with Scarecrow, the Chechen and the Batman copycats.

And then it keeps piling on villain after villain.

"The problem" with superhero comic book movies is NOT the number of villains, OR the built-in campiness, OR sticking or not sticking to the cannon etc., etc.

The problem is in the fact that until Christopher Nolan took on Batman, no other comic book movie was ever done as a serious "made for adults with half a brain or more" movie.

We can't really count Unbreakable as it was not really based on any existing comic book.

That is why all those animated TV serials are seen as good or great while movies range from terrible to maybe good.

With the exception of Nolan's Batman movies and MAYBE Iron Man, Hellboy and Donner's Superman (who are all riding on the "born to play the part" card) - all other superhero movies are made as if the target audience is a bunch of credit card carrying cretins.

Stories are simplified, characters are two-dimensional (despite preexisting decades of character development in other media), comic book science and logic is shoveled on at every corner, actors are barely trying - cause no one is taking any of that seriously.

Writers, directors, actors, producers... They are not there "filming".

They are all just making a big budget "kids movie", paying more attention to honoring their deals with McDonalds than to acting or creating the movie in some other way.

It's "just another day at the office" for everyone involved.

There is no love NOR pride for their work to be felt in it or them - all the key players are just there for the money.

After all, everyone knows they are not getting any Oscars for THOSE kind of movies.

You want an Oscar for a superhero movie? Do what Heath Ledger did.

Superhero movies are not "bad" because they are about superheroes.

They are bad because they are bad movies - which is apparently what everyone seems to be expecting a superhero movie SHOULD be like.

An action movie with wall-to-wall special effects aimed at people who don't want to use their brain while they are "being entertained".

How to fix that?

Simple - they should start treating them like "real" movies.

Not jumping on a "gritty and realistic" wagon trying to emulate The Dark Knight - cause that's not why it "worked".

It worked cause it was a CRIME movie first and foremost. Then an action movie, a superhero movie, etc.

I.e. It had a story beyond "guys in masks and suits beat each other up".

So... Stop treating superhero movies as action-comedies and start making them as thriller, mystery, drama and crime movies with science fiction and action elements.

But I'm guessing that something like that would be expecting too much from an industry that keeps churning out remakes, reboots and restarts.